80 Elizabeth St — Units 3B & 3C Renovation

Purpose: one-page source of truth for the combined-apartment renovation.

Last updated: 2026-07-24 · Stage: demo complete; framing not complete; plumbing/electrical not started; approvals done; inspections not started. Flooring + bathroom tiles ordered by Jason.

Action board — do these first

Current blockers: Kitchen cabinets (Jason to contact Robert), rear-outlet toilets, and a new ceiling/lighting plan: the original drawings do not show drop ceilings or recessed-light layout.
Done at Kohler
Bathroom fixture core

Shower valves/handles, tub, shower doors, 2 vanities (48"), 2 medicine cabinets, cabinet lighting, shower trim, and bathroom mirrors selected. Contractor has no Kohler discount — proceed with quote as-is.

Still open
Immediate

Rear-outlet toilets (limited options); decide drop ceilings and recessed-light layout before electrical work; then shop actual fixtures. Towel bars / toilet paper holders / accessories can follow.

Critical path
Kitchen

Jason will contact Robert (cabinet person). Cabinet plan still the schedule risk.

Done
Flooring + tiles

Flooring and bathroom tiles ordered by Jason.

Not shown in drawings
Ceiling + recessed lights

Original drawings do not show drop ceilings or recessed-light layout. Create/approve this layout before electrical rough-in; fixtures come after the plan.

Jason handles
Doors

Jason will handle purchasing all remaining doors.

Kohler visit update — contact: Rachel

Bathroom core fixtures decided at Kohler. Contractor has no Kohler discount — proceed with quote as-is.

Done

  • Shower valves/handles for both bathroomsPrimary bathroom has two shower heads; the extra control is a diverter valve that switches water between the heads.
  • Tub selected for outside bathroom
  • Shower doors for both bathrooms
  • Both bathroom vanities set at 48"
  • Medicine cabinet
  • Cabinet lighting
  • Shower trim chosen
  • Bathroom mirrors

Not done yet

  • Rear-outlet toilets: Kohler had only few options we can use
  • General lighting still open for hall bath, bedroom, and kitchen
  • Towel bars, toilet paper holders, and bath accessories

Fast shopping rules for today

  1. Do not browse everything. First collect model details + order options for items blocking wall close-up.
  2. For each item, leave with: model number, exact size, lead time, finish, price, return policy, and a photo.
  3. Text Ben before buying anything that blocks wall work. Especially tub, valves, rear-outlet toilets, vanity, medicine cabinets, and the drop-ceiling/recessed-light layout.
  4. Parents should approve narrowed choices. Aim for “Option A recommended / Option B backup,” not 20 photos.

Shopping trip plan — direction instead of wandering

Goal for this outing: resolve bathroom wall-close blockers first, then kitchen/electrical, then style/furnishing exploration if time remains.

Stop 1

Plumbing / bath fixture showroom

Buy/shortlist: shower valves, tub, rear-outlet toilets, vanity, faucets, shower trim.

Why first: these block bathroom wall work.

Stop 2

Door stop — remaining interior doors

Buy now: 1 set hallway closet bifold doors; 1 pocket door for living room closet; 1 guest bathroom door; 1 bedroom door; 1 bedroom bathroom door; 2 bedroom walk-in closet doors.

Still needed before order: exact dimensions for each opening and rough opening details.

Stop 3

Ceiling / lighting plan first, then showroom

Decide first: which rooms get a drop ceiling and where recessed lights go. The original drawings do not show this.

Then buy/shortlist: cabinet lights/sconces and hallway bath/bedroom/kitchen fixtures that match the approved electrical layout.

Stop 4

Kitchen cabinet / appliance place

Resolve: cabinet path, appliance electrical requirements, refrigerator/dishwasher/microwave/hood constraints.

Why: cabinetry lead time is project critical.

Optional

Furniture / finish browsing

Look at: sofas, dining, beds, rugs, paint direction, tile/floor samples.

Why last: useful for design direction but less urgent than wall and wire blockers.

Must-have measurements / facts before buying

ItemAsk Ben for this before purchaseSafe shopping behavior if info missing
5-foot left-drain tubLeft/right orientation from apron side, exact max length/width/depth, alcove/apron requirement, drain/overflow type.Do not buy; collect model options and product details, then text Ben.
Rear-outlet toiletsRear outlet height/setup, tank vs flushometer, wall/carrier constraints, max projection.Don't buy a standard front-outlet toilet. Only accept rear-outlet models.
Interior doors (remaining + already-decided)Exact opening width/height, reveal, wall thickness, swing/hardware, pocket vs slab framing, and finish details.Only order doors once you have exact room-by-room measurements and final style choices.
Shower valvesHow water-temperature mix works, number of water outlet positions, total depth, and whether a diverter is needed.Choose one valve system family first; send valve body details to Ben before ordering.
VanityWhich bathroom, exact finished wall width, plumbing centerline, single/double sink, drawer clearance around pipes.Target 48" as safer standard unless Ben confirms 50–52" custom/semi-custom.
Medicine cabinetsOpening cutout size, recessed vs surface-mount, wall depth, electrical if lighted/defogger/outlet.Favor models with clear product details. Confirm recessed depth before buying.
Drop ceilings / recessed + other lightsWhich rooms receive a drop ceiling; recessed-light locations/counts; ceiling heights; box type; bath damp/wet rating; dimmers; integrated LED vs bulb.Do not buy recessed fixtures or close ceilings until the layout is approved. Original drawings do not show it.
AppliancesAvailable circuit amps, gas/electric constraints, venting path, cabinet opening dimensions.Avoid 50A-required appliances until electrician confirms service/circuit plan.

Shopping checklist by category

Door orders to confirm now

  • Hallway closet: 1 set bifold doors.
  • Living room closet: 1 pocket door (slides inside wall).
  • Guest bathroom: 1 interior door.
  • Bedroom: 1 interior door.
  • Bedroom bathroom: 1 interior door.
  • Bedroom walk-in closet: 2 small interior doors.
  • Urgency: get exact dimensions for all before final buy.

Main bathroom blockers — highest priority

  • Shower valve bodies and control pieces
  • Shower trim kits and finish direction (already done at Kohler)
  • Outside-bathroom 5-foot left-drain tub selected
  • Rear-outlet toilets: still open; Kohler had limited options
  • Bathroom vanity set to 48" in both rooms
  • Two medicine cabinets selected
  • Cabinet/above-mirror lighting selected
  • Faucets, towel bars, toilet paper holders, accessories

Electrical / lighting

  • Approve drop-ceiling locations and finished ceiling heights.
  • Approve recessed-light layout for hallway bath, bedroom, kitchen, and other affected rooms.
  • Then select hallway bathroom, bedroom, and kitchen fixtures.
  • Under-cabinet or cove/LED strip lighting direction
  • Dimmer/switch assumptions
  • Bath damp/wet-rated fixtures
  • Appliance electrical requirements, especially anything 40A/50A

Kitchen

  • Cabinet vendor/path and lead time
  • Cabinet layout confirmation
  • Refrigerator dimensions
  • Dishwasher dimensions
  • Microwave drawer dimensions
  • Hood/exhaust requirements
  • Sink/faucet/disposal decisions
  • Countertop/quartz direction

Design/furnishing direction — if time

  • Living/dining furniture size assumptions
  • Bedroom furniture size assumptions
  • Closet system preferences
  • Flooring samples
  • Tile samples
  • Paint palette direction
  • Door/hardware finish direction
  • Window treatment direction

Photo/spec capture template

For each option you like, take/send photos in this order:

  1. Beauty/photo of item.
  2. Price tag/model number.
  3. Spec sheet/dimensions.
  4. Finish/color sample.
  5. Lead time/availability note.

Then paste photos/notes here and I can turn them into a parent review packet: recommended option, backup option, pros/cons, and what Ben must approve.

Decision tracker

Status meanings: Blocked cannot move until missing info is resolved; Needs shortlist needs options narrowed; Needs approval ready or nearly ready for parents; Done decided.

PriorityDecision itemWhy it mattersCurrent blocker / missing infoOwnerWho approvesTarget timingStatus
P0Primary-bath shower controlsTwo shower heads need a diverter valve to switch water between heads; the valve components go behind the wall.Done at Kohler (Rachel). Extra control is confirmed as a diverter, not a separate temperature valve. Validate final finish + handles before parent review.Frank + wife + RachelParents for visible trimCompleteDone
P05-foot left-drain tub (outside bath)Tub/drain position affects plumbing and wall close-up.Done at Kohler (outside bathroom) at selected size/orientation.Frank + wife + RachelParentsCompleteDone
P0Shower doors (both)Doors affect clearances, trim alignment, and visual flow.Done at Kohler.Frank + wife + RachelParentsCompleteDone
P0Shower trimTrim determines finish direction.Done at Kohler.Frank + wife + RachelParentsCompleteDone
P0Bathroom vanity, max 50–52"Vanity size affects plumbing, wall finish, and ordering.Both bathrooms set at 48".Frank + wife + RachelParentsCompleteDone
P0Bathroom mirrorsFinal mirror choice affects lighting and visual finish.Done at Kohler.Frank + wife + RachelParentsCompleteDone
P0Medicine cabinets + cabinet wall lightsCan affect framing/blocking/electrical boxes before wall close.Done at Kohler (includes lighting package).Frank + wife + RachelParentsCompleteDone
P0Rear-outlet toilets x2Must match wall/rear discharge plumbing; standard toilets likely wrong.Need final acceptable model + lead time; Kohler had limited options.Frank + wife + BenParentsImmediateNeeds shortlist
P0Kitchen cabinet layout + cabinet vendor/specLikely critical path; cabinetry may have up to 8-week lead time; affects appliances, electrical, plumbing, counters.Jason to contact Robert (cabinet person). Need cabinet layout, dimensions, vendor lead time, measurement confirmation.Frank + wife with JasonParentsImmediateBlocked
P0Appliance package / electrical limitsDrives cabinet openings, electrical loads/outlets, plumbing, ventilation, delivery timing.60A/240V total service. Wolf 30" induction range (50A) ruled out — would trip main. Two decoupled options: (A) Bosch 24" induction cooktop (30A) + Frigidaire microwave, or (B) Wolf 15" induction cooktop (20A) + Wolf 24" drawer microwave. Gas ruled out for safety. Bosch fridge + dishwasher confirmed. Need decision on cooktop/microwave.Frank + wifeParents (Patrick & Nancy)ImmediateNeeds approval
P0Drop ceilings + recessed-light layoutCeiling framing, fixture locations, electrical boxes, and rough-in depend on this plan.Original drawings do not show drop ceilings or recessed lights. Need room-by-room ceiling heights, recessed locations/counts, switching/dimming, and then compatible fixtures.Frank + wife with Ben / RaymondParents for visible layoutBefore electrical rough-inBlocked
P0Kitchen plumbing fixture selectionsSink/faucet/disposal/filtered water affect setup and cabinet planning.Need sink size/type, faucet, accessories, and water filter/hot water decisions.Frank + wifeParentsBefore plumbing setupNeeds shortlist
P1Foyer closet doorCloset door choice affects opening method and clear floor space.Decided: bi-fold doors. Need final measurements before purchase.Frank + wife + Jason/BenParentsThis week (to buy)Done
P1Living room closet doorDoor type affects wall layout and usable closet opening.Decided: pocket door (slides inside wall). Need final measurements before purchase.Frank + wife + Jason/BenParentsThis week (to buy)Done
P1Walk-in closet door setupDoor style affects closet usability and opening path.Decided: two small doors. Need final measurements before purchase.Frank + wife + Jason/BenParentsThis week (to buy)Done
P1Guest bathroom doorDoor finish/size affects circulation and framing alignment.Jason will handle purchasing all doors. Need final measurements.Jason + FrankParentsThis weekJason owns
P1Bedroom doorDoor timing and opening details affect finish and hardware ordering.Jason will handle purchasing all doors. Need final measurements.Jason + FrankParentsThis weekJason owns
P1Bedroom bathroom doorInterior door may affect hallway movement and hardware plan.Jason will handle purchasing all doors. Need final measurements.Jason + FrankParentsThis weekJason owns
P1Bedroom walk-in closet doors (2)Door openings define closet usability and transition quality.Jason will handle purchasing all doors. Need final measurements.Jason + FrankParentsThis weekJason owns
P1Other interior doors / window-door transitionsRemaining door items may affect framing, finishing, and approvals.Jason will handle purchasing all doors.Jason + FrankParentsSoonJason owns
P1Flooring selectionImpacts subfloor prep, transitions, doors, acoustic/building requirements, overall look.Ordered by Jason.JasonParentsCompleteDone
P1Tile selectionsImpacts bathrooms, kitchen/backsplash, lead times, waterproofing sequence.Ordered by Jason.JasonParentsCompleteDone
P1Countertops / quartz detailsBlueprint mentions 1" quartz counters, 3" quartz/waterfall, quartz backsplash/slab.Need material/color, edge profile, slab availability, backsplash height, waterfall confirmation.Frank + wifeParentsAfter cabinets, before templatingNeeds shortlist
P1Closet systemsWalk-in closet elevations mention 2" white shelving/dividers and aluminum hanging.Need final closet layout, hanging/drawer/shelf balance, vendor/fabricator, finishes.Frank + wifeParentsSoonNeeds shortlist
P2Paint palette / wall finishesVisible final design decision; coordinate with floors/cabinets/tile.Need palette direction and samples.Frank + wifeParentsBefore finish paintingNeeds shortlist
P2Furniture planDetermines outlets, switches, lighting, TV/media locations, traffic flow.Need basic room-by-room furniture layout, especially living/dining/master bedroom.Frank + wifeParentsNow for electrical assumptions; final pieces laterNeeds shortlist
P2Window treatment planImpacts aesthetics, privacy, possible electrical if motorized shades.Need manual vs motorized, rooms, fabric/opacity.Frank + wifeParentsBefore finish stage; sooner if motorizedNeeds shortlist

Kitchen blueprint-based appliance review

Better source: this section now uses the kitchen-specific blueprint PDF instead of a generic sketch. The images below are the actual kitchen sheets/drawings from 80 ELIZABETH 3B&3C Kitchen.pdf. Use this for parent review, then have Robert/Jason/electrician verify exact cabinet sizes, clearances, and circuits.

Important limitation: I can show the true blueprint sheets and make appliance-option annotations, but I cannot reliably derive every exact cabinet width from the PDF text alone. The PDF labels show REF/DW/exhaust/quartz/drawer microwave clues, but not enough machine-readable dimensions for a construction-grade redraw.

Actual kitchen blueprint reference

Kitchen floor plan sheet from blueprint
A-700.00 — Floor plan contextShows original DW and REF labels in plan context.
Kitchen interior elevation A-706.00 extracted drawing
A-706.00 — Kitchen elevationShows quartz waterfall, DW, REF, 3" quartz, adjustable legs.
Kitchen interior elevation A-706.01 extracted drawing
A-706.01 — Kitchen elevationShows exhaust vent, 1" quartz counter, REF, divider, drawer-type microwave.

Confirmed layout change to carry into Robert's cabinet plan

  1. Dishwasher move: dishwasher moves from the original right-wall location to the left of the sink. This is the key layout change to tell Robert.
  2. Cabinet sizes are flexible: cabinet widths/appliance modules can be adjusted to make the safer appliance package work.
  3. Cooking appliance needs a final documented choice: the original drawings show one gas range. Later review rejected a 30" Wolf induction range because it needs 50A. Confirm the final cooking approach with the electrician and Robert.
  4. Keep the review focused: parents should choose between Bosch 24" cooktop vs Wolf 15" cooktop/drawer microwave; Robert then lays out exact cabinets around that choice.

Appliance proposal modules — not cabinet shop drawings

These modules show what each option requires. They intentionally do not pretend to know exact final cabinet widths. Robert should translate the chosen module into the true cabinet elevation.

Later electric-range concept Reject

Bosch fridge
36" approx
120V
Bosch DW
24" approx
120V
Wolf 30" induction range
50A / 240V
Microwave
120V / 15A

Why it fails: this later 30" Wolf induction idea consumes almost the entire 60A service capacity by itself. The original drawing instead showed one gas range.

Option A — Bosch cooktop Viable

Bosch fridge
36" approx
120V
DW moved
left of sink
120V
Bosch 24" induction cooktop
30A / 240V
Frigidaire / 120V microwave
location flexible

Best if: Patrick/Nancy want a more usable cooktop width and a consistent Bosch package.

Option B — Wolf modular Luxury / lowest load

Bosch fridge
36" approx
120V
DW moved
left of sink
120V
Wolf 15" induction cooktop
20A / 240V
Wolf 24" drawer microwave
120V / 15A

Best if: they want Wolf branding, lower electrical draw, and an under-counter microwave that is safer to use.

Decision table for parents / Robert

DecisionOriginal drawing / current noteProposed directionWho verifies
Dishwasher locationOriginal plan/elevations show DW in the kitchen drawing, previously on right wall.Move DW to left of sink.Robert + Jason
Range / cooktopOriginal blueprint shows one gas range. A later Wolf 30" induction idea was reviewed and rejected because it needs 50A.Document the final cooking approach; if electric induction, use a lower-amp cooktop only after electrician confirmation.Electrician + Robert
MicrowaveBlueprint already references drawer-type microwave.Option A: 120V microwave location flexible. Option B: Wolf 24" drawer microwave under counter.Robert
Electrical service60A / 240V total service.Avoid 50A range. Bosch 24" cooktop is 30A; Wolf 15" cooktop is 20A.Electrician
Cabinet dimensionsPDF is schematic; machine-readable dimensions are insufficient.Cabinets/appliance widths can flex around the selected package.Robert field measures

Questions for Ben / Jason / Raymond

  • Rear-outlet toilets: provide exact acceptable models + lead times after Kohler limits found.
  • Shower control clarification: confirmed — primary bathroom has two shower heads and the extra control is a diverter valve that switches between them.
  • Ceiling / lighting: the original drawings do not show drop ceilings or recessed-light layout. Who will produce the room-by-room ceiling, recessed-light, dimmer, and fixture-box plan before electrical rough-in?
  • For 50A unavailable: RESOLVED — see Appliance Electrical Report. 60A limit requires decoupled cooktop + microwave. Two options: Bosch 24" induction (30A) or Wolf 15" induction (20A) + Wolf drawer microwave. Need parent decision.
  • What exact decisions are blocking framing, electrical, or plumbing right now?
  • What is the realistic critical path if targeting end of July?
  • What cabinet decision/order date is needed — Jason is contacting Robert, when can we expect a timeline?
  • Can pipe and wire work start using temporary cabinet/appliance choices?
  • Are building flooring/soundproofing rules relevant?
  • What inspections are required and in what order?
  • Are the blueprint interior elevation details intended as final specs or schematic suggestions?
  • Who is responsible for final field measurements for cabinets/closets/vanities/countertops?

Working rules

  • Frank + wife: main coordinators; turn chaos into shortlists and recommendations.
  • Parents: final decision-makers; loop in for review after options are narrowed.
  • No payment tracking here: Frank will manage payment/budget separately.
  • Privacy rule: keep private information out of this HTML file. Use roles/names and decision context, but avoid personal phone numbers, sensitive family details, payment details, account numbers, access codes, or anything that should not be visible if the page is shared.
  • Design priority: furnishings, fixtures, kitchen layout, and apartment design choices.
  • Preferred format: HTML dashboard as the readable single source of truth, with supporting notes/files as needed.
  • Target completion: ASAP, desired end of July.

Contacts

NameRoleKnown detailsUse / ask them aboutOpen info needed
RaymondArchitectBlueprint title block shows Raymond Chan Architect, 136-68 Roosevelt Ave., Flushing, NY 11354, Tel: (718) 445-2345, info@raymondchanarchitect.comDesign drawings, DOB interpretation, layout/design clarifications, architectural intent.Best direct phone/email; whether Raymond himself or office PM is day-to-day contact.
JasonContractorContractor contact.Schedule, framing, setup readiness, site constraints, vendor timing. Handling flooring, tile, and door purchases.Phone/email, company, division of responsibility vs. Ben.
BenContractorContractor contact.Schedule, field execution, measurements, coordination with trades.Phone/email, company, division of responsibility vs. Jason.
RobertCabinet personCabinet vendor/fabricator.Kitchen cabinet layout, specs, lead time, pricing.Jason to make contact; need phone/email, company, lead time.
RachelKohler point personSource of bath-fixture decisions.Bathroom fixture confirmations, restroom lighting, and parts/model clarifications.Contact details in phone notes / follow-up with Ben.
Parents (Patrick & Nancy)Final approversOpinionated and indecisive; ~80s; limited cooking experience; budget not the main constraint.Approve narrowed design choices and final selections.Best review cadence and format: in-person, photos, PDF, printed board, etc.
Frank + wifeCoordinatorsMain project coordinators.Create shortlists, resolve blockers, organize notes/tasks, coordinate reviews.Wife's preferred role/areas: kitchen? finishes? furniture? parent communication?

Milestone schedule

Key schedule risk: end-of-July completion conflicts with cabinet lead time if cabinetry is not finalized immediately.
MilestoneStatusDependenciesNotes / next action
DOB/building approvalsDoneArchitect/building approvalsReported complete.
DemolitionDoneSite access and approvalsApartment taken down to studs.
FramingIn progress / not completeLayout set; field conditionsAsk Jason/Ben what decisions block framing completion.
Electrical setupNot startedDrop-ceiling/recessed-light plan (not shown in original drawings), switch/outlet plan, appliances, furniture assumptionsApprove room-by-room ceiling/recessed-light layout first; then select fixtures and verify electrical constraints.
Plumbing setupNot startedKitchen + bath fixture specs, appliance selectionsBathroom items now blocking wall close-up.
InspectionsNot startedPipe/wire setup completeAsk contractor for inspection sequence and realistic dates.
Close walls / finishesFuture / blockedInspections passed, blocking complete, materials availableBathroom walls blocked by fixture/setup selections.
Cabinets/counters/installAt riskKitchen layout, cabinet order, appliance specs, countertop templatingCritical path: Jason to contact Robert (cabinet person); need timeline.
Punch list / move-in readinessFutureFinish work completeTarget end of July; needs schedule confirmation from contractor.

Working space plan — estimated interior area

Planning estimates supplied by Gabby; use field measurements and approved drawings for any construction or purchasing decision.

SpaceEstimated area
Living and dining area360–400 sq. ft.
Primary bedroom205–215 sq. ft.
Walk-in closet65–75 sq. ft.
Primary bathroom85–95 sq. ft.
Kitchen50–60 sq. ft.
Second bathroom35–40 sq. ft.
Foyer, storage and circulation160–190 sq. ft.
Estimated interior totalAbout 1,050 sq. ft.

Blueprint notes

Source file: 80 ELIZABETH 3B&3C.pdf

PDF facts: 11 pages; project title: 80 Elizabeth St Unit 3B&3C, New York, NY 10013; project no. 22330; drawings dated 06/05/2026–06/06/2026; issue/revision line shows 08.14.24 Draft.

Drawing no.Title / areaDecision clues extracted
A-700.00Proposed combined units 3B & 3C floor planOverall plan. Shows combined units connected by one doorway. Original kitchen plan showed one gas range; later cooking alternatives need final electrical/cabinet coordination. No drop-ceiling or recessed-light layout shown.
A-701.00 / A-701.01Living & dining room interior elevationsFull white laminated glass, full glass display, Milano profile door/frame, 4" porcelain tile base, 1" quartz countertop, existing windows/air conditioners.
A-702.00 / A-702.01Master bedroom interior elevationsMilano profile door/hardware, linear LED strip lighting, faux leather wrapped headboard color to be selected by architect, 1" quartz slab, existing window/air conditioner.
A-703.00Walk-in closet interior elevations2" thick white shelving/dividers, extruded aluminum hanging, full white laminated glass, adjustable legs.
A-704.00Bathroom interior elevationFull-size mirror, Milano profile door/hardware. Needs fixture/accessory schedule.
A-705.00Foyer interior elevationFoyer details; extracted text limited. Needs visual review.
A-706.00 / A-706.01Kitchen interior elevations3" quartz waterfall, 3" quartz, dishwasher, refrigerator, kitchen exhaust vent, 1" quartz countertop, divider, drawer-type microwave, adjustable legs.
A-707.00Master bathroom interior elevation3/8" tempered glass, continuous cove/cover lights, toilet tissue holder, aluminum towel bar, full-height mirror, 1" quartz backsplash.

Note: PDF text extraction is imperfect. Treat these as working notes, not a substitute for visually reviewing the drawings with Raymond/Jason/Ben.

Paste-notes workflow

When Frank pastes messy notes, convert them into these buckets:

Decisions

What choice needs to be made, by whom, by when, and what blocks it.

Tasks

Concrete next actions with owner and deadline.

Questions

Items to ask Jason, Ben, Raymond, parents, building, or vendors.

Risks

Anything that threatens schedule, quality, or rework.